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Following my post from the other day, and it’s light-hearted message I have to say that it had me intrigued. Intrigued enough to read the memo’s (what I could muster before nearly being sick), intrigued enough to openly admit that maybe this a subject left to the professionals in the military, but intrigued enough to keep reading whatever I could to gain my own personal view.

Whilst most moderate Republicans (US), Conservatives (UK) and PDL (Italy) would consider me to be a lefty liberal with one iq point short of a plemboyant genius, I can assure you I am not, and this does not affect my position.

Ultimately I am someone who believes in the free right to live my life in the way I choose, something which terrorism (in it’s most modern form) wishes to take from me. I also believe in the right to trial and hence the idea of Guantamo Bay being the scariest of propositions for any law abiding citizen.

So it comes as no shock to anyone that when I came across this particular story it had me thinking.

The first is from Salon.com, and it is a brilliant piece of journalistic review of torture, it poses questions rather than answers and it’s helped me make up my mind on the subject.

The second is from an interview on Fox. (Who would have thought it hey!) All I want to know is, who the hell does the male guest Cliff May – Defense for Democracy – think what world do we live in? I’m glad he doesn’t agree that “a red hot poker through the eye” can be considered to be torture. I’m pretty sure a red hot poker through the eye can lead to certain death, I don’t know maybe going a little too deep. Also, yes these people captured do not disclose name rank and order, it doesn’t give license to torture. Are we saying if I get stopped by a police officer and don’t have my documentation, but you believe me to be a threat to society that I should detained, then tortured? Could I hold that information that “you” so desperately need to stop other offences?

Don’t forget in the last 6 years 18 prisoners have been let go from Guantanamo Bay because they were taken on bad information, they still suffered torture.

But the greatest thing about this whole video (which is worth your time), is that the presenter, a FOX presenter is irked so much by the fact the states tortures that he argues with everyone even his own producer. To you Shepard Smith I salute you – thank goodness there may something worth watching on Fox!

And…..

We are America, we don't f*£%&^g torture!